March 13, 2011, 3:32 AM
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It took Youtube and Facebook all of two hours to remove this film.
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Why ?
Because evil ones protect their own.
It's past time to grasp that this evil Psalm 83 Conspiracy against Israel is global in nature and playing weak is not an option.
The big lie that they have fed the world that Palestinian's are victim's could be damaged if the truth got out,so they block the truth and feed the lie.
Israel is portrayed as the bad party while the Palestinian's the innocent victims.
Evil birds of a feather flock together and Israel keeps playing their sick 'peace' game.
The only way to deal with this is not by nice Jewish acts,capitulation,building moratoriums,goodwill gestures,stupid acts of weakness and surrender to the evil Palestinian's but the same determination that the U.S. used to defeat the Nazi's and Imperial Japan.
Do as they do ,not as they say.
It bothers me greatly that Netanyahu and Barak first went to the U.S. for permission on his 'measured' building in response to this evil act.
He should have done much,much,much more !!!
It's more 'limited' smoke and mirrors to appease his right.
The world needs to see the pain that Israel goes through every time these animals commit these heinous crimes. No wonder the cowards and Islamic sympathizers of Youtube and Facebook nixed this.
Maybe it was removed because of the music from Schindler's List (copyright issues). Try removing the soundtrack.
Caroline. I could not see the video. Is there anything wrong with the link?
I just saw it posted on You Tube ... I do not know why it might have been removed , but it there as I type this message
It took them two hours to remove it because they probably were not aware of it for 1 hour and 59 minutes. The self hating Jews who own and run youtube and facebook are detestable.
It took them two hours to remove it because they probably were not aware of it for 1 hour and 59 minutes. The self hating Jews who own and run youtube and facebook are detestable.
The forgels were also Gush Katif expellees. Israel's government of appeasers and traitors knows no limit to its cruelty. They kick this family out of one home and intentionally leave them at the mercy of sub human terrorists (they had taken down roadblocks recently) in the next home.
And yet Facebook allows garbage like "lets nuke israel"?
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=42749489053
Download the video and repost to YouTube. That's what I did, and apparently others are doing it as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzWV720HlOc
Palestinian supporters are flagging the videos as inappropriate for some viewers.
Please download and repost to YouTube.
Look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLVaBikQAHw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
and here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyJsHBe_3E8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
and here:
http://www.haolam.de/?site=artikeldetail&id=4743
This is Islam. Not radicals or terrorists. Islam.
Please read the Koran, and read about the Sira and Hadith to prove it to yourself.
This is a war of ideas. The principal idea in the war ought to be a direct attack on the Koran, debunking it and ridiculing it.
Civilized folks leave religion alone, out of respect. Civilized folks agree to allow anyone to believe what they want, regardless of how irrational.
But Islam is the barbarity intersecting, now, with technological advancement. This is the moment humanity has dreaded. The most effective way to address it, is to attack the ideology of the barbarism.
This is a terrible atrocity. This reminds me of the murder of Tali Hatuel and her four girls in 2004 when they were driving along the road to Netzer Hazani. In both cases, the jihadis of Gaza were celebrating in triumph. Bloggers here in the US have reported that Hamas sympathizers were handing out candy and pastries in the streets of Gaza in celebration yesterday. Israel faces a demented and barbaric foe. How these people have inverted the moral order of civilized societies! And they glorify their repudiation of it! Hamas and their intransigence and Fatah and their duplicity: what reliable partners for peace. When will the mainstream media accurately report these outrages. Instead they besmirch the victims because they are settlers.
My sincere condolences to the family, and the people of Israel at this distressing time
I believe two things:
1. That this family are, right now, resting in the arms of their God, who is wiping their teats away
2. That the God of Israel will judge those who performed this barbaric act
May the Lord bless you and keep you
I searched for "fogel family massacre" on youtube just now (3:45pm CDT-US) and watched it there: www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0-3XGJf0ZI
God knows. He sees. He cares. He loves His people. He immensely rewards those who seek Him whole-heartedly. Dear Almighty heavenly Father, forgive us - come and put an end to our sinfulness and bring in Your everlasting Kingdom of righteousness.
Remember when Andrew Breitbart got crucified recently for presenting Saint Shirley Sherrod "out of context?" Well, this video is "out of context" too in that it OMITS the video footage of candy being passed out in celebration in Gaza. My suggestion on reposting the video on YouTube is to append a little Coda to the video that includes the "Palestinan Partners" of Gaza celebrating the massacre of the Fogels just as they celebrated the massacre of the 3000 plus at Ground Zero.
Caroline,
Transferring this talk(Reuven's article)into action takes real faith,something Barak and Netanyahu have proven they do not posses.
http://israelinsider.net/forum/topics/time-for-israel-to-stop
Reuven,
It is good to see the Joshua's and Calev's arising at this late hour.
That is the best antidote for a neutered and femmenized political establishment that only knows how to aid in Israel's self destruction.
I read Defenseless Mister Ehud Barak's latest vomit and understand where he and so many in Israel are coming from.
The international community whom they prostate before is bigger than the Holy One of Israel in their eyes.
Their god is too small for any big task and so they keep serving evil men and their evil plans.
They serve the evil and perverted hypocrites of the international community FIRST AND FOREMOST.
You can see Barak's religious devotion to his god and how he happily beats fellow Jews to please them.
He does love being Netanyahu's bad cop to his good cop.
That is the god they both adore and fear because they know no other ,they have no where else to run to.
That is why it is so critical that both quisling's fall ASAP as the tribe of grasshopper Jews are soon to be disinherited from the land.
It probably won't happen as we saw in Japan with the sea vomiting out the unfortunate souls who assumed they were safe on dry land,but mark my words ,the God of Israel is angry with the grasshoppers and they are soon to go the same way as the first crop of miserable grasshoppers who delivered the first evil report to Moshe and Israel.
I think that is why so many missiles are pointed at Israel from so many directions.
God is about to clean His house of Israel of small faithless,idol worshiping grasshoppers.
May he protect you and the faithful of Israel.
There are no words, tears say it all. It will only end when we take action against the barbarians gathering at our gate.
Reduced to tears here. No words can describe how I feel.
R.I.P.
(with love from the UK)
Thank you for sharing this video. It is horrifying and heartbreaking. Nothing changes does it? My heart goes out to Tamar and her siblings who survived. This was such an evil act. While I believe that God will enact the ultimate justice against these murderers, I wouldn't mind seeing a pound of flesh extracted from them on this side of eternity.
God bless Israel.
It is my understanding that the Fogel family's wish is that the photos of this horrific incident are distributed.
If the video doesn't work or is taken down, there are photos on the following site:
http://myrightword.blogspot.com/2011/03/fogel-family-releases-graphic-photos.html
They are extremely difficult to look at but if their distribution is the wish of the family then they should be passed on via email to as many people as possible.
I am shocked by some of the vile responses I've read from the so-called pro-Palestinian people. What kind of mind can find any excuse whatsover for the murder of parents, children and babies whilst they sleep? Yet some of these people have. Mind you, these are the same people who apparently support the Palestinian indoctrination of children and find similar excuses when confronted with photos of babies dressed in military uniform with mock suicide belts strapped around their little waists.
Might I suggest those of us resident in Europe write to our MEP's, send these photos and those of the celebrations in Gaza, and ask when the EU is going to put pressure on the Palestinians to cease their vile indoctrination of young minds. My taxes - our EU taxes - provide aid to the Palestinians and by remaining silent I feel complicit.
Where the Israelis get their patience is beyond me.
If I were pulling the strings every building Hamas ever stepped foot in would be rubble right now, Gaza would be in flames. Fuck them all.
Dear Caroline,
There is a simple reason why this video was removed. It is a message from the tyrants: Stay Calm and SUBMIT!
I sincerely do not understand why the rest of the civilized world does not show these animals for what they are. PIGS!!!!! God bless this family and curse the pigs who did this. Just how insane must you be to be able to kill a child or baby????? I detest Islam.
Isn't it crazy, what Israel does "against" Palestinians is tame enough to show the world as proof of how cruel we are, yet the atrocities committed by Palestinians are so gory they aren't appropriate for public viewing, so people can preserve their denial.
I have been reading and enjoying your articles for some time.
However, in this case, I think this video, and the decision to release the pictures is just plain wrong.
It simply perpetuates the idea that Israel must demonstrate it's suffering to the world and, if the suffering is deemed sufficient, retaliate (in a 'proportional' way, of course).
Netanyahu, Barak, and the government are responsible for insuring our protection.
They don't need the world's permission to do so.
We don't need to publish these horrific pictures to win the world over to our side.
We need leaders that will lead and destroy the Islamic menace in our country.
But they don't.
They wait for permission, until Israel has enough "victim credits", and then launch some half-baked action (bombing empty buildings, the half-job of operation cast lead, etc...).
We don't need the world to photos of our dead.
We need leaders who are willing to lead.
I wish we could bring the Jewish nation out of there and give them land in Australia or the US where they could be free of these vile murders and unwarranted terrorism.
I wish that we could expell all Islamists out of the western countries back to their own barbarous countries where they could happily murder each other for the rest of their days.
They don't really care who they kill as long as they think they are doing as the Quran wants them to do.
They are a nightmare in this world and have always been so. They are Satan's army, together with their left wing sympathisers.
God bless the Jewish people - God's people and God bless Christians and all other good people who don't go around murdering helpless babies, children and adults because of a murderous creed - not a religion at all - it just caters for thugs and ignorant, uneducated, mindless sub humans.
Terrorists and pedophiles find this film too difficult for their sensibilities.
Oops! Time for prayers again!
People - All of you who refer to the Arabs who murdered 5 out of 8 members of the dear Fogel Family (May G-d avenge their deaths) as "Animals" are making a big mistake and an unnecessary slight to the animal kingdom. Animals do not commit murder and do not commit wanton acts of cruelty for animals possess no free choice. Only human beings have the capability of committing horrible acts of unspeakable viciousness. Call these arabs monsters. Call them by any other accurate description - but do not call them "animals".
In addition, they are not "Palestinians" for there is no such thing as a palestinian nation or people. Never was (and hopefully if the Jewish people wake up in time) there never will be such an entity. So what are they? They are real live Arab Monsters who need to be dealt with exactly as the term implies.
Wake up my fellow Jews. The Talmud states very clearly and instructs specifically. "He who rises up to murder you, kill him FIRST!" This is a call to our feckless so-called "leaders" who foolishly buy into the destructive and fallacious narrative of a "palestinian people". We need our leaders to begin to do their job and protect the Jewish People in the Land of Israel. G-d is waiting for them (and us) to do the right thing. Sooner will be much better than later.
carolyn i think you should make reactment of thise and let the world see it again and again because hearing about this things dos not move any one but jews.however seeng it even in reactment will move any humen.
Dear Caroline & Crew,
I do pray for the Jewish people. And I think you were right to put these pictures out, so people could see, the persecution Jewish people have to put up with. I don't believe moving Jewish people, some where else in the world would save them persecution. Israel is Jewish land, and they should build in it, and be safe also. They just have to go after the folks, that did this. And punish them severely. Jews must stand up for themselves, I know the rest of the world will condemn them. But they must fight to exist. I wish it didn't have to be this way, but it is. God bless you and your people.
Ivan
It is unbelievable that people exist that would do this to other human beings. These are the cowards of the religion of Islam. They attack innocent people including their own. They are dispicable and should be shown for what they are over and over. These pctures should be on TV and in all the newspapers to remind us of with whom we are dealing.
Yossi, you are 100% correct. These people or more correctly, animals need to be eradicated before any more blood is shed. If the world condemns Israel regardless of its reaction to these vile acts, more forceful action should be taken in response.
It's disgusting! both the facts themselves and the huge silence we had on the event, overhere in France and elsewhere, I guess !
How & why the H**l !, Facebook didn't (want to) cut off the "palestinian" page calling to the 3rd intifada, more than 160,000 stupid b*******s were able to sign ???!!!
Thank you Caroline Glick for your clear (and unfortunately) clever explanations.
The amazing thing, with this "extreme-leftist" and anti-semitic "evolution" (huge slippery)of the opinion (thanks to liberal after communists and arabo-palestinian propaganda), is that the 'standard' person one is, now stands beneath the "extreme-rightists" and racists ! Hopeless...
There has been an ongoing continuous war of extermination directed against Israeli families, targeting women and children in particular. This is genocide in anything but name because they are killing future generations.
Daniel Greenfield Connects the dots
The Muslim Terrorist War against Israeli Families
See how many pregnant women there are on this incomplete listing? That is not a coincidence. None of this is. Muslim terrorism is genocide. It is a genocidal struggle to conquer and wipe out non-Muslim populations. As in Israel, as everywhere else. Rape is one tool of Muslim demographic warfare. So is murdering pregnant women and children. Destroying families. They have been fighting it since a maddened would-be prophet began his campaign of extermination against a multicultural region.
This is war. Their kind of war. The attacks on schools and on families. The massacre of entire families is a tactic. Acts of evil by a cult too horrifyingly evil for most people to even understand. What evil does best is the exploitation of innocence in order to destroy it. And who are more innocent than the children?
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/03/muslim-terrorist-war-against-israeli.html
YouTube has a policy team that defines what can stay online and what goes off. Videos as violent as these cannot stay posted. I think it is folly to believe, and incendiary to boot, that the video was eliminated because it dealt with an issue that affected jews. There are no videos on YouTube with violence, pornography, child pornography, etc. so I don't understand what Ruth was thinking.
I agree that it was a horrific murder that received little to no attention in the us, however....
the people that live in these SETTLEMENTS(areas of conflict where the world doesnt believe are israels territory but israel disputes this) CHOOSE to live there ... when you choose to live in an area where your neighbors hate you and believe you are trying to take over their land ... often times extremist ideology takes over. I'm not saying its justified at all, I'm just saying that if everyone would follow the rules, and israel would build only where its authorized to build ... and something like this STILL happens .... then we would be justified to launch an offensive against the neighboring arab villages, but until then its all politics
If Arabs are living in Israel,why can not Jews live in Palestanien territory ??
The US Media hardly covered this at all! This is the Muslim sympathy and liberal left in this country controlling the media. I will send this video across to everybody I know.
Whilst I usually think of myself as quite hardened to the ongoings in Palestine and Israel, I found myself horrified by the murder of the 5 Fogel family members.
Having said that, the reaction by the Israeli right is also horrifying. There are people, some of which are commenting above, who are more concerned with receiving the right type, or the right amount of press coverage of what they undoubtedly view as a "media event".
Israel's own Minister of Propaganda talked of getting the "right effect" when he chose to release images of the victims.
I've seen very little concern over the family's surviving members, or anything that I would normally attribute to a human response.
Of the many crimes committed in Palestine (Itamar is in Palestine of course), the vast majority are committed against the Palestinians by either the IDF, or by settlers (but with IDF support).
As for press coverage, how many of you can tell me the name of the last Palestinian child killed or orphaned by Israel's armed forces? How many of you can tell me the name of the last Palestinian family massacred by Israel's armed forces?
Precisely.
OK. How are you going to justify this horror, world press, radical left, Helen Thomas "anti-Zionist" syncophants? Ah, yes you'll just have to ignore this one- and hope it goes away soon- faster than 54 rockets can hit a city.
This is a tragic crime, and I mean no disrespect but I am curious... What are the round white and blue tags shown on each of the victims?
Tears are the only appropriate response. One day we will all answer to the Almight God of Heaven, unless we have sought forgiveness in His Christ. "Father forgive them" and comfort the remaining babies. The holacust all over again.
The other day I was watching C-Span and in between programs they announced that the state department was disappointed Israel decided to build near Jerusalem. It's interesting, I didn't hear the state department mention how "disappointed" they were when they learned a couple of Palestinian pigs murdered an innocent family in their own home. It was suspiciously quiet at the EU and U.N. The story got little coverage by the media. The Fogel family massacre highlighted the pro arab bias that is expressed throughout the world. The same people that consistently slander and attack Israel will make a big deal if they build on their own land but an act of sheer barbarism seems to have been forgotten. I watched a video clip in which the Prime Minister visited the family when the massacre took place, he mentioned they know who they are dealing with and promised to continue to build. But, building alone in response to such an event isn't enough. When these scum bags were found and arrested they were asked if they had any remorse for what they did, they said not only don't they have any remorse but if they knew their were others they would have killed them to. On the day of the sentencing they were seen laughing and joking around. Israel needs to strengthen their terrorism laws. Currently, the death penalty is given only if it involves Nazis. The law should be expanded to say that any terrorist that's found guilty of such a crime carries with it an automatic death penalty that must be carried out no more than thirty days of the conviction. Why should these vial, evil, lowlives still be alive when the innocent Fogel family got a death sentence and they didn't do anything wrong. Another thing they should get rid of is offering college degrees in jail. What is that, give these opportunities to the Israeli people not these bags of pus. If Israel doesn't stand up and do what's right no one will do it for them. If Israel learns to take action based on what's in their best interest instead of what others want they will be much better off.