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J Street and the Jewish war against Israel

March 19, 2011, 4:47 PM
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The video below was taken at J Street's recent conclave in Washington. The older man with the beard is Gershon Baskin. I don't know who any of the other interviewees are. If you recognize them, let me know. 

I think it video is extremely revealing for what it says about the face of the so-called peace movement in Israel and the US. These people don't want peace. They want to wage war against Israel. The support waging economic war against Israel. They view the IDF as indistinguishable from Hamas. They believe that bad Jews control US foreign policy. They want to force Israel to its knees and coerce it into accepting a Palestinian state that will be in a state of war with Israel and whose borders will render Israel militarily indefensible.
These are not positions that are conducive to peace. They are positions that are conducive to the destruction of Israel.

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Jewish people such as the members of J Street are ignorant, and feel deep fear of being hated by culturally Christian-European (Christian and post-Christian) non-Jewish people, and are egocentric (wherein they think: "I am so moral"), and are, therein, and thereby, deluded, and are, therein, and thereby, immoral.

The leaders of Israel - *specifically* the leaders of Israel - *necessarily* the leaders of Israel - *must* become conscious of, and *must* mindfully, clearly, firmly, tell the factual, currently 94-year, history of, and current reality of, the situation that Israel is in to the television news media of Western countries, and to the television news media of Israel, and directly to the leaders of Western countries.

Israel - A Brief Summary of the History of the Situation
http://danielbielak.blogspot.com/2011/03/israel-brief-summary-of-history-of_17.html

'They want to force Israel to its knees and coerce it into accepting a Palestinian state that will be in a state of war with Israel and whose borders will render Israel militarily indefensible'


No force is needed.
Israel has already capitulated to all of this under imitation Likud lite without a fight.
Listen to Barak,surrender is their motto and their creed!
J Street has a very easy job.
Their inside men sit in the highest reaches of power in the Israeli government and always follow the orders given them by the international community.They just can't say no.

marcel

This sorry lot called "J street" threatens the entire Jewish people. Their insolent attitude, and moral superiority is akin to Korah in Numbers 16. These modern day Korahites would drag the entire nation of Israel down, even destroy it, and still feel superior and vindicated for it. Foul and vile these people are! Would that the earth open and swallow them as it did in Moses' day!

Daniel Bielak says "Jewish people such as the members of J Street are ignorant, and feel deep fear of being hated by culturally Christian-European (Christian and post-Christian) non-Jewish people,". On the contrary, most people who belong to J Street and other "peace" groups are actually highly intelligent. They are embarrassed by Jewish people like us who make waves and try to disturb the status quo. That the Israeli government panders to these Jews in name only is despicable and serves no purpose other than to show our weakness and lack of self respect. Each time Klal Yisrael has fought despite overwhelming odds, she has won. We've come too far to have what is rightfully ours taken away.

naomir,

Jewish people such as the members of J Street are ignorant in that they, like, unfortunately, most Jewish people, are ignorant of the factual history of the situation. Jewish people such as the members of J Street, although they may be clever, and although they may be highly schooled, are also ignorant in other profound ways. They are ignorant of their own minds.

Although most Jewish people are ignorant of the factual history of the situation, most Israeli Jewish people, and some (I think many) non-Israeli Jewish people, are aware of the essential reality of the situation, and they, unlike the Jewish people who are members of J Street, and unlike Jewish people who are like the members of J Street, are not completely deranged with pathological severe Stockholm Syndrome.

The Stockholm Syndrome that the members of J Street, and that people who are like the members of J Street, are deranged by is constituted by the following factors.

O Deep fear of being hated by non-Jewish people

O Egocentrism (in which one thinks: "I am so moral")

O Resultant immoral wrong empathy with others (empathy *with* (not wise compassion for, nor wise equanimity toward, but rather, empathy *with*) people who are profoundly ignorant, and who hate, and who are holding evil malicious wrong views about one's own people, and who, as a result, hate one's own people, and who are attacking one's own people).

O Malice (malice toward one's own people who are being attacked by people who are profoundly ignorant, and who hate, and who hold evil malicious wrong views about one's own people, and who, as a result, hate one's own people)

I, on my blog, have written a brief summary of the factual history of the situation.

My blog
http://danielbielak.blogspot.com


'Behold, the nations are as a drop in a bucket, And are counted as the small dust on the scales;
Look, He lifts up the isles(Japan) as a very little thing. And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, Nor its beasts sufficient for a burnt offering.'
Isaiah 40:15

The godless left,God hating J street have the pride and arrogance of Lucifer and like him think they are God.These unJew's like the devil they serve openly despise God and flaunt their evil shaking their fasts at Him,daring him to strike them down.
Don't worry about them,their days are numbered and they will soon be a distant memory of departed fools.
The remaining Jews (except for the settlers)are immersed in so much fear because they do not know their God or His unbreakable,solid,pure,strong,hopeful word.
They've spent so long drinking the polluted waters of their idol America that the toxins have damaged their eyes and ears to see and hear.
They treat the real wealth and power,God's words of promise which He will never break with scorn while giving respect to piles of dung known as the US,EU,UN,International Community.

'Yet now be strong, Zerubbabel,’ says the LORD; and be strong, Joshua, son of Jehozadak, the high priest; and be strong, all you people of the land,’ says the LORD, and work; for I am with you,’ says the LORD of hosts.‘According to the word that I covenanted with you when you came out of Egypt, so My Spirit remains among you; do not fear!’
'For thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘Once more (it is a little while) I will shake heaven and earth, the sea and dry land; 7 and I will shake all nations, and they shall come to the Desire of All Nations, and I will fill this temple with glory,’ says the LORD of hosts.....
And again the word of the LORD came to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying, 21 'Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying:
I will shake heaven and earth. I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms; I will destroy the strength of the Gentile kingdoms.
I will overthrow the chariots And those who ride in them; The horses and their riders shall come down,
Every one by the sword of his brother.
Haggai 2

J Street calls itself pro-Israel, pro-American and pro-peace. In reality, it is only willing to support a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict, even though it knows that thousands of Israeli Jews are never going to leave the settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. As J Street doesn’t accept a one-state solution, its existence seems a waste of time and money.

Too many people seem to be engulfed in a msist at Honah Lee.

Your comments, which I thoroughly enjoy and look forward to, are always spot-on -- but please use a spell checker ;-)

I have been living in Israel for almost 10 years now and I've come to believe that the "Law of Return" should be amended (if not scrapped).

Our Jewish brethren in the "diaspora" are, with few exceptions, a burden on this country.

We are continually being told by them how are self-defense inconveniences their cushy lives in New York, L.A., etc..

Israel should stop seeing itself as a homeland "of the Jewish people" and start seeing itself as a home land "for Israelis".

It's said that only 20% of the Jews in Egypt actually made it out.

The other 80% elected to stay and die.

Nothing has changed and we should not let the 80% drag the 20% down the drain with them.

If these fools want to live off the kindness of strangers, let them.

David,

You wrote:

"I have been living in Israel for almost 10 years now and I've come to believe that the "Law of Return" should be amended (if not scrapped).

Our Jewish brethren in the "diaspora" are, with few exceptions, a burden on this country."

Jewish people who understand the reality of the situation should not concern themselves with the Jewish people who attack the Jewish people. Worrying about, and being angry at, Jewish people who attack the Jewish people is just the creation of strife within the besieged Jewish community, and is harmful.

Jewish people who understand the reality of the situation must, simply, mindfully, clearly, firmly, tell the factual, currently 94-year, history of, and current reality of, the situation that Israel is in to the world.

Most importantly, the remedy and solution to the whole problem that is facing Israel and the Jewish people is the following.

The leaders of Israel - *specifically* the leaders of Israel - *necessarily* the leaders of Israel - *must* become conscious of, and *must* mindfully, clearly, firmly, tell the factual, currently 94-year, history of, and current reality of, the situation that Israel is in to the television news media of Western countries, and to the television news media of Israel, and directly to the leaders of Western countries, and must do so repeatedly - as many times as is necessary.

I offer the following to my fellow Jewish people.

The following is a quote by the Buddha from a teaching of the Buddha which has been helpful to me. The word Buddha is a title and means "Awakened One". The Buddha lived, and taught, in India, approximately 2,500 years ago.

Conquer anger
with lack of anger;
bad, with good;
stinginess, with a gift;
a liar, with truth.

(http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.17.than.html)

This quote is from the Dhammapada, which is a collection of short teachings of the Buddha, and which is part of the Tipitaka. The Tipitaka (the "Three Baskets") is a collection of the earliest surviving written recordings of the teachings of the Buddha.

The teachings in the Dhammapada have been very helpful for me.

The following are links to two English translations of the Dhammapada.

"Yamakavagga: Pairs", Chapter One of the Dhammapada

Translation by Acharya Buddharakkhita:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.01.budd.html

Translation by Thanissaro Bhikkhu:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.01.than.html

----

I apologize if my writing this sounds preachy. I don't mean to sound preachy. I don't want to offend anyone. I don't want to cause any harm. I want to do what's skillful - what's beneficial. It's very difficult to not do any unskillful (harmful) actions, and to do what's skillful (what's beneficial). It's very difficult for me to not do any unskillful (harmful) actions, and to do what's skillful (what's beneficial), and I often do unskillful (harmful) actions, but I strive to not do any harmful actions, and I strive to do what's skillful (what's beneficial).

Sincerely,
Dan

Dear Caroline,

Please do not despair. I could not agree with you more. J Street must be exposed for what it is, inclusive of it's supporters.
However, partly for your entertainment, would you please click on the following link for a web blog from the infamous Colonel Patrick Lang, written by the supposed former cia
operative Phil Giraldi on the subject of J Street and why they are no different from AIPAC and should therefore be outlawed.
You deserve a few laughs...maybe you can get some ideas for your LATMA project which has received so much well deserved praise.

Best Wishes!

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2011/03/j-street-why.html

I´m waiting for some article about the situation in Libya... how come AlQaida, Lebanon and even Iran are "together" with UN-Obama coalition against Qaddafi´s regime? Why Israel is not involved or mentioned almost but is being "attacked" by Hamas mortars at the same time? Please I would love some light :) thanks in advance

Daniel, I agree with you in theory, but I will still stand by my simplistic words. Being a modern Orthodox Jew and a Zionist my entire life I have encountered similar versions of J Street over the years. The reaction has been the same each and every time. The only difference now is that the self hatred has become more virulent.

As far as I am concerned, these people are not real Jews! They have no loyalty whatsoever to their own people or to Israel. They have forfeited their Jewish heritage.

It is sheer HUBRIS of J Street to think that they have enough information to have formed a relevant opinion. Are they too stupid to realize that there is more information that the IDF and Israeli government have not disclosed, than what is available to "outsiders" ... ?
And the attendees interviewed are too clueless to even be ashamed of themselves, or to understand that they don't know what they don't know.

Of all the things Barak Obama has done, and is doing, to purposely destroy America and rebuild it in his image; his hatred of Israel is the most dangerous for our nation.

Economic disasters can be overcome. The consequences of ill-conceived wars can be overcome. Racial polarization can be overcome. A socialist revolution can be overcome---But becoming the enemy of Israel will bring upon this nation the judgment of God, and there is no political remedy for this. There is no power in all the institutions of men that can overcome the judgment of God.

When radical Muslim leaders around the world, sworn to the destruction of Israel, refer to Obama as "our son", this should open even the most naive and blinded eyes to the conspiracy of hatred that rages against the Jews---And a tragedy is that the most naive and blinded eyes of all belong to many secular Jews on the left.

For the sake of America: we should pray for the peace of Jerusalem, we should stand against the forces in this nation, who like Haman, plot against Israel; and we should demand that our preachers and politicians stand with Israel in her "day of trouble"---lest we be found standing against the God of Heaven, Himself.

An American Christian


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