Russia's invasion of Georgia should serve as proof that there are some regimes that simply cannot be considered strategic allies of the West. And as the US and NATO try to assess the wreckage of their attempt to forge a post-Soviet alliance with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, another erstwhile ally is showing that it too, cannot be trusted.
On Wednesday, Iran's genocidal, nuclear weapons-seeking leader, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, will arrive in Istanbul for a "working visit" with Turkish leaders. This visit represents a diplomatic triumph for Teheran. Since assuming office three years ago, Ahmadinejad has feverishly pursued diplomatic ties with Western-allied states in an effort to weaken the West's will to take action to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Turkey is the first NATO member to welcome him to its territory.
According to media reports, during his visit Ahmadinejad is scheduled to meet with President Abdullah Gul and with Prime Minister Recip Tayyip Erdogan. On the agenda are Iran's nuclear program and Turkish-Iranian financial ties. Turkey favors advancing both.
In recent months, the Turkish government has become one of the most outspoken advocates of Iran's nuclear program. At least publicly, Turkish leaders credulously accept Iran's dubious assertions about the peaceful intent of its nuclear program - which it refuses to fully expose to the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency's inspectors.
As for financial ties with Iran, Turkey is working feverishly to expand them. From 2002, when Erdogan's and Gul's Islamic fundamentalist AKP party first assumed leadership of the country through 2007, Turkey's trade with Iran expanded from $1.2 billion to $6.7 billion. In July 2007, Turkey signed a $3.5 billion deal to develop one of Iran's oil fields. Over US objections, Turkey is planning to finalize that deal with Ahmadinejad this week. Trade between the two countries is expanding so quickly that most Turkish businessmen will tell you that Iran is their hottest market.
TURKEY'S WARM ties with Iran are matched by its embrace of Iranian satellites and proxies like Syria and Hizbullah. Turkey was the first Western-allied state and NATO member to host Syrian President Bashar Assad on a state visit after Assad's regime assassinated former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri in 2005. In 2006, Turkey sided with Hizbullah in its war against Israel. It even allowed Iran to transfer weapons to Hizbullah through Turkey.
Then there is Turkey's open support for Hamas. After Hamas's victory in the January 2006 Palestinian legislative elections, Turkey became the third non-Arab state after Iran and Russia to openly embrace Hamas. Hamas's Syrian-based leader Khaled Mashaal paid an official visit to Ankara where he met with then foreign minister Gul and senior AKP party officials a month after his Iranian-sponsored terror group's electoral victory.
The Turkish government's support for Hamas is complemented by its support for al Qaida financiers. In the summer of 2006, Erdogan endorsed his top advisor's donations to senior al Qaida financier Yasin al-Qadi after they were exposed in the Turkish media. And since entering office, Erdogan, Gul and their AKP colleagues have repeatedly accused Israel and the US of committing genocide against Muslims in Gaza, Lebanon and Iraq.
While both the US and Israel have voiced their displeasure with Turkey's embrace of their enemies, neither country has taken any steps to either discredit Ankara or to distance themselves from the Turkish government. To the contrary, both Israel and the US continue to praise Turkey as a strategic ally. Both insist that under the AKP, Turkey is demonstrating that it is possible to be Islamic fundamentalist and pro-Western. And both are enabling and indeed encouraging Turkey to act as an intermediary between them and their sworn enemies.
In Israel's case, Turkey has been mediating the Olmert-Livni-Barak government's negotiations with Syria. And in the US's case, it appears that Turkey has played a mediation role between Washington and Teheran. On July 17, both US National Security Advisor Steven Hadley and Iranian Foreign Minister Manoucher Mouttaki just happened to be visiting Ankara on the same day. Two days later, US Assistant Secretary of State William Burns met with Iran's nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili in Geneva.
In both cases, it is far from clear that either Israel or the US have benefitted from Turkey's increasingly prominent role in their foreign policy. In fact, in both cases, Israel and the US have weakened their position by allowing Turkey to serve as a mediator between them and their adversaries.
IN THE case of Syria, as Assad's recent visit to Teheran showed clearly, Israel's attempt to use negotiations with Syria to pry Damascus away from its strategic alliance with Teheran has failed. To date, the only thing its decision to hold indirect negotiations with Syria in Turkey has done is end Syria's isolation from the West.
As for Iran, the Bush administration's decision to allow Turkey to mediate between it and the ayatollahs has arguably emboldened Turkey to move forward with its Iranian oil deal. Beyond that, Turkey's success in convincing the Americans to actively pursue diplomacy with the Iranians paved the way for the US's humiliation in Geneva last month. During that meeting, Jalili made no attempt to reach an agreement with the US and its partners. And by joining the Europeans and the Russians in directly engaging Iran, the US facilitated Russia's announcement last week that it sees no reason to impose additional UN Security Council sanctions against Iran for its failure to agree to temporarily suspend its uranium enrichment activities.
Like Russia under Putin, Turkey under Erdogan's leadership has masked its rapid transformation from a flawed but pro-Western democracy under its previous governments into an anti-Western - and in Turkey's case Islamist - regime by paying lip service to the West even as it has taken steps to purge its power structure of pro-Western voices. Just as Putin's popular government has taken brutal action against his political, intellectual and financial foes, so too, Erdogan's popularly elected Islamic fundamentalist regime has worked steadily to discredit, criminalize and intimidate its pro-Western rivals.
SINCE TAKING office in 2002, the AKP under Erdogan has taken control over Turkey's bureaucracy. It has weakened women's rights. It has launched brutal campaigns against its foes in the media, taking over opposition television stations and arresting and intimidating anti-Islamic editors and reporters. It has taken over the Turkish secret police and regular police forces. It has stacked the Turkish courts with its loyalists. It has enabled the opening of radical Islamic madrassas. It has penetrated the military and demoralized and intimidated the senior officer corps. It has ignored court judgments against it.
Through the police, it has launched a massive wire tapping campaign against its political opponents and has leaked embarrassing transcripts of these tapped phone calls to its loyalist press to humiliate and intimidate its rivals. It has used wiretaps of opposition journalists in police interrogations of their editors.
The only remaining secular check on Erdogan's government is Turkey's Constitutional Court. Last week, the court narrowly rejected the court's chief prosecutor's lawsuit calling for the outlawing of the AKP party on the grounds that it is seeking to overthrow Turkey's secular constitutional order. In their ruling, ten out of eleven judges did agree that the AKP is seeking to weaken Turkey's secular identity and ruled that it be denied government funding.
In an apparent bid to both distract the public from the court case and to further delegitimize its opponents, the government claims that it uncovered a conspiracy by senior opposition officials, including leading journalists, businessmen and generals, called the Ergenekon plot to overthrow the government. It alleges that most of the terror attacks carried out by Islamic terrorists over the past several years were actually carried out by members of this secularist cabal. Last month the police arrested two retired generals, a prominent industrialist and a respected journalist along with 17 others in its prosecution of the Ergenekon plot.
In all of this, of course, Erdogan and his associates are mirroring Putin's actions in Russia since he assumed office in 2000. Like Putin, the AKP replaced a deeply corrupt, unpopular pro-Western government. While Putin has built his popularity on xenophobia and hatred of the West, Erdogan and the AKP have built their popularity on a rejection of secular Turkish nationalism in favor of pan-Islamism and hatred of the US and Israel. And as they have moved their countries away from the West, both Putin and Erdogan have managed to maintain good relations with Washington by going through the motions of supporting its war against terror even as they have both embraced terrorists and their state sponsors.
THE LESSON moving forward from all of is not that Israel and the US should turn their backs on Turkey. In an international environment that is increasingly hostile to liberal democracies, there is no reason to cut off ties with hostile regimes just because they are hostile. But at the same time, neither the US nor Israel should delude themselves by thinking that Turkey remains their strategic ally. It is not. And there are consequences to this fact.
For the US, beyond ending immediately Turkey's role as an intermediary with Iran, it would make sense to float the notion of removing Turkey from NATO due to its expanding ties with Iran. Just the suggestion of such a move would no doubt have a profound effect on the Turks. Certainly, the US should be reaching out to regime opponents and calling for Erdogan and his associates to end their attempts to repress the anti-Islamic media and secular politicians, businessmen and military commanders.
If the US is concerned about inflaming Turkish sentiment against it through such moves it should consider that since Erdogan took power, and as the US has bent over backwards to be nice to him, anti-US sentiment in Turkey has risen steeply. According to a recent Pew international opinion poll, today the Turks are the most anti-American society in the world.
For its part, Israel should reassess its willingness to sell sensitive military equipment to Turkey given its close ties to Israel's enemies. It should certainly stop its Turkish-mediated talks with Syria and reject Turkish offers to mediate between Israel and the Palestinians.
Like Russia, Turkey's anti-Western regime is promoting itself to the West by pretending not to be anti-Western. And as was the case with Russia up until it decided to invade defenseless Georgia over the weekend, the US and its allies have been willing to endanger their strategic interests to believe this lie.
It can only be hoped that the West will abandon this policy before it inadvertently paves the way for a new Iranian-allied axis of evil populated by the likes of Russia, Turkey and Pakistan. All of these governments owe much of their power to the West's willingness to believe that their anti-Western regimes could be trusted as strategic allies until it was too late.
Originally published in The Jerusalem Post.
Comments (9)
Israel and the United States have hardly set a good example for Turkey to follow. Both Israel and the the U.S. have kowtowed to Iran and its minions in Syria, Lebanon and Gaza. Turkey sees only weakness in our approach to Iran's threat and cast their lot with them.
If the U.S., and I hope with Israel's help, ever deposes the mullahs and ends their nuclear threat the foundation of Islamic militancy will have ended. Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas will collapse without the ideological and financial support of Iran.
Turkey will suddenly discover that Islamic fundamentalism doesn't seem like such a good idea after all.
Posted by Bill K. | August 12, 2008 7:14 AM
Turkey’s shift toward radical Islam in recent years is an ominous development. With its burgeoning ties with Iran, Turkey is drifting from Europe, but NATO is reluctant to make changes that would insult the Turks. It would take uncommon courage for NATO to drop Turkey from its membership. Meanwhile, a new Cold War may have begun on “888” when Russia invaded Georgia. Although the Russians have stopped their offensive, now is the time for NATO and the EU to back Georgia, before the empire strikes back.
Posted by Marc Handelsman, USA | August 12, 2008 12:01 PM
What did you expect from Moslems ,peace,loyalty,friendship ?
Thank God the delusion of the West related to their supposed defeat of Comunism and the myth of moderate Islam is ending ,but it is ending on an apocalyptic and tragic note.
For that I do not thank God but point the finger at stupid ,easily deceived meglomaniacal leaders in the West with their globalist empire dreams.
The ancient Jewish prophet Obadiah wrote of the trap the eagle would fall into in these tragic days of great destruction and the Jewish prophet Ezekiel pointed out that Turkey would join the Russian and Persian confederation to come agains Israel.
It's only the godless,arrogant dreamers,the C.F.R.,New World Order Bush,Peres,Olmert Globalist's,the Zibgnew Brezinski crowd, who ignore God who are surpried by the rapid unraveling of their cherished utopian fantasies.
Posted by Marcel Cousineau | August 12, 2008 5:10 PM
Dear Caroline Glick My Precious Sister AMEN;
Caroline PLEASE Post This So PERHAPS We ALL Can
Be Of 1 Accord, 1 VOICE FOR ZION'S SAKE SIS :)
STAY STRONG Baby Girl I AGREE With You Totally!
Marcel, Marcel, You Made VERY Good Points As
Well And Brother Marc "Marky Mark" Handelsman
Does In My Respectful Opinion AMEN :):):)
I Enjoy Your Comments BUT FORGET NOT THIS:
Caroline Glick Has Been Sounding The Shofar FOR
ZION'S SAKE MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE ANYONE
ELSE THOUGHT SERIOUSLY OF DOING SO, BOO IF YOU
WANT AMEN. I Freely ADMIT I Was WILLFULLY
Walking Around With Spiritual Blinders On,
And I WAS Very Afraid To Say Or Write Anything
To Anyone BUT NOT CAROLINE GLICK FOLKS!!! Did
I See The "Writing On The Walls"??? Yes I Did
See JUST ENOUGH To Make Me "A VERY Nervous
Timothy Church Mouse". Would It Be REASONABLE
For Us ALL To Be Of 1 ACCORD & 1 VOICE TOGETHER
FOR ZION'S SAKE??? If A Person Has Some Point
To Make, PLEASE BY ALL MEANS DO SO BUT BE NOT
ANGRY OR ABUSIVE TO EACH OTHER FOR ZION'S SAKE.
HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE, ANY SENSE AT ALL, TO
STONE EACH OTHER, THROW ROCKS AT EACH OTHER OR
(PEBBLES IN MARCEL'S CASE) AT CAROLINE GLICK???
That Is MY Concern, Caroline Has Access To UP
TO DATE Information We Are NOT Privy To AMEN???
Here Is What I Know For A FACT: While I Was
On Active Duty For 8 Years (6 Years Over Seas
Including Desert Shield/Storm With The 1st
Armored Division) I Held A SECRET Security
Clearance So There Are Things I HAVE NEVER
NOR WILL I EVER DISCUSS WITH ANYONE UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES. Anyone Whom Has Served On
Active Duty In The Military Of ANY Nation
KNOWS FULL WELL A Person Randomly Comes Across
Information That Is VERY Timely And NOT A
PROBLEM TO SHARE WITH ANYONE WHOM HAS A DESIRE
TO KNOW SUCH INFORMATION. I Can Tell You This
Much, When President Clinton Was In Office For
8 Years HE CHEERFULLY GAVE AWAY US MILITARY
SECRETS TO SWORN ENEMIES OF THE USA, AND
ISRAEL WITHOUT FEAR OF PENALTY OR
ACCOUNTABILITY TO ANYONE, NO DISRESPECT OR
OFFENSE INTENDED TO ANYONE INCLUDING FORMER
US PRESIDENT BILL "THE THONG CHASER" CLINTON.
Russia Clearly Has A Unique HATRED FOR ISRAEL
AND THE USA, THIS HATRED IS SHARED BY MANY SO-
CALLED "ALLIES" OF ISRAEL AND THE USA AMEN.
Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq,
Kuwait, Egypt, Jordan, And The List Goes ON
Syria, AND ALL ISLAMIC NATIONS REGARDLESS IF
THEY CALL THEMSELVES MUSLIM OR ARAB ARE SWORN
TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE USA AND ISRAEL! This
List ALSO INCLUDES OPENLY PAGAN NATIONS AS WELL
So Does This Include Any Other SO CALLED ALLIES?
ABSOLUTELY, TRY FRANCE, TURKEY, SPAIN, AND
MANY OTHER SO CALLED ALLIES WORLD WIDE! THE
UN (UNITED NOTHING), The EU (European Cowards
Whom Would Be Goose-Stepping (Like Hamas,
Hizbullah, Fatah, Islamic Jihad Do OPENLY)
And Shouting HEIL HITLER Had The Grounds Of
Those Nations (The Rebirth Of The Roman Empire
NOTHING HOLY ABOUT THEM OR THE VATICAN SADLY)
NOT Be Filled With USA And JEWISH Blood During
2 World Wars) That Bled The GROUND RED!!! Evil
Has ALWAYS Overtly And COVERTLY Opposed The
People Seeking FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON
EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN AMEN. It Is NO
Mystery That The Veil Is Coming OFF The Eyes Of
Many Peoples And Many Nations WORLD WIDE.
Turkey Has NEVER BEEN A US ALLY NOR A TRUE ALLY
OF ISRAEL FOR THAT MATTER, Caroline Glick And
Others Have Pointed This FACT Out At The Risk
Of Being FALSELY ACCUSED OF "RACISM OR BEING
POLITICALLY INCORRECT"!!! I Personally Find
This "Politically Correct" GARBAGE Sickening,
Not That Caroline Glick And Other Bold
Courageous Men And Women World Wide Are Shocked
At Being Repeatedly Falsely Accused And Attacked
By Pro-Islamic And PAGANS WORLD WIDE WHOM
OPENLY PROMOTE THEIR "New World Order"
Agendas. I Have Been Listening To Nations And
People For YEARS Since The CEASE-FIRE (HUDNA)
IN 1989 WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN AND HIS CREW BOAST
"THE USA IS THE WORLD'S ONLY REMAINING SUPER-
POWER", A LIE THEN AND A LIE PEOPLE STILL SAY!
Russia, China, And Every Nation World Wide
Knew This Was A LIE Then, And It Is Even MORE
Obvious A LIE Today, Anyone Could See This
Folks, HUDNA ONLY BENEFITS THE FORCES OF EVIL
REGARDLESS IF IT IS A NATION OR INDIVIDUALS.
PAGAN NATIONS LEARNED HOW TO USE "HUDNA" TO
THEIR BENEFITS ALSO. We Can All Agree I PRAY
That Hudna Is A ISLAMIC TERM FOR "CEASE-FIRE"
Which Is ALWAYS TO THE BENEFIT OF THE ENEMIES
OF ISRAEL AND THE USA, AND ALWAYS SHALL BE SO.
Oh Before I Forget, Marcel Did You Know That 2
Of The TOP 4 People In The C.F.R. Are
Jordanians??? The Same Jordanians Whom Have
A "HUDNA", AS DOES EGYPT, WITH ISRAEL MY
BROTHER. I ASK You All To PLEASE Continue To
Share Information And Your Personal Views BUT
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE LET US NOT ATTACK EACH
OTHER BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE READING CAROLINE
GLICK'S WEBSITE IF WE WERE NOT OF 1 ACCORD IN
OUR HEARTS FOR ZION'S SAKE AMEN??? I LOVE YOU
ALL MY PRECIOUS BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND YOU
CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AMEN :):):) Thy
Servant And Brother FOR ZION'S SAKE ISAIAH 62
AMEN LET EVERYTHING THAT HAS BREATH PRAISE YE
THE LORD OUR GOD, THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC,
AND JACOB. Numbers 6:24-27,Habakkuk 2:1-3 AMEN
Posted by Timothy Kriete For Israel FOREVER MORE AMEN | August 12, 2008 8:31 PM
You shed considerable light into a very dark hole. It will take more than 'hope' to politically recover from this troika of terror. It is a warning to the West while they eat with utensils and use table manners the 'others' are more than willing to eat the West and to hell with manners and morals.
Posted by Elana | August 12, 2008 9:50 PM
But in 2000, Yousef, who now prefers to be known as "Joseph," was an open-minded 22-year-old Muslim, clean-shaven and dressed in jeans instead of the traditional garb of Palestinian Arabs. Despite his preference for Western ways, Joseph was the eldest son of (Hamas leader) Hassan Yousef, a prominent lawmaker in the Palestinian parliament, and as such the heir-apparent to his father's position of influence in Palestinian circles.
That simple, almost anonymous invitation to visit a Bible study eventually transformed Joseph's life, and now he is sending shock waves throughout the Middle East as he publicly declares his faith in Christ. He may be the best-known Muslim to ever publicly announce his decision to follow Jesus.
"Sometimes we don't know the importance when we go out to invite people to come to Bible study," Joseph said. "Sometimes we think this is wasting time. This guy had no idea who I was...........
Joseph came to the United States because his decision to follow Jesus meant losing his life in Ramallah on the West Bank. As the son of a senior Hamas leader, he has been unable to find work in America and depends on the generosity of Barabbas Road members to get by.
"Just to stop and think for a minute about announcing your Christianity; you feel sick immediately because it's crazy," Joseph said. "You're not just saying goodbye to a religion, to a tradition. You are saying goodbye to a culture, to a civilization, if you can call it that. Even the process of taking your skin off your bones might be easier than saying goodbye to your mother and to everybody, especially when you are a well-known figure in your society and everybody has high expectations that one day in the future you will be one of the leaders.
"Suddenly you are starting from scratch and canceling everything you have in society," Joseph explained. "But when it started, I was ready for any circumstances. I thought about the worst conditions that could happen as consequences after my announcement. But -- and I tell you this is a miracle, this is how God works -- you carry the cross and rely on Him completely and He takes care of everything.
"This may be the first case that a well-known Muslim just goes to the public and says, 'I am a Christian,'" Joseph said. "Many Muslim sheiks, many Muslim imams may be converted to Christianity but they keep that a secret. They didn't announce it because it is very embarrassing for them and for their families. They were afraid for their lives.
"But I decided to declare Jesus in front of the world, so He declares me in front of the Father," Joseph said. "That was the main reason. I am going to be just worshiping God in a very special way by doing this.
"When Jesus says 'carry your cross and follow me,' it wasn't to put a cross on your shirt and keep walking the street."
The power that transformed his heart and gives him the courage to publicly declare his faith in Jesus is the only hope for an end to the violence that plagues the Middle East, Joseph said.
"I have met politicians. I have met presidents and prime ministers. I have met all the leaders of that region," Joseph said. "None of them have a magical solution for this issue. They are leading people but they don't know where they are going.
"Even if they have a way out of this endless circle of violence between the two nations, none of them have the courage to do it," he added. "Both sides have many parties and every party has its own agenda. There are no strong leaders in that region who can make brave decisions."
The real path to peace in the Middle East, Joseph said, is the same path -- the only path -- a human heart can follow to find deep, lasting peace.
"Jesus is not going to give them a political solution, but He has changed me and He can change those people to a better people. He can teach them how to forgive, how to love," Joseph said. "Everybody on both sides is hurt -- not only Israelis, not only Palestinians. If we can teach them how to forgive and move on and love their enemies, for the next two generations, we can build a new leadership for both sides to be able to live together.
"Now, as it is, there is no hope for them but Jesus. It's that simple."
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=28663&ref=BPNews-RSSFeed0811
Posted by Marcel Cousineau | August 13, 2008 3:40 PM
Caroline Glick My Precious Sister AMEN;
STAY STRONG BABY GIRL, I Thank You For Sounding
The Shofar RELENTLESSLY FOR ZION'S SAKE AMEN,
Sis You Are Truly A PRECIOUS DAUGHTER OF ZION
AMEN. Marcel, Marcel, Is It Written In The
NEW Testament/Covenant Cited By The HEBREW
Weeping Prophet Jeremiah Whom Lamented
Relentlessly For Israel's Sake To The LORD
Our God FOR ZION'S SAKE (Jeremiah 31:31-34
AMEN), It Is Written Of Saul Of Tarsus The
Pharisee Whom Later Went By His Roman Name PAUL.
(Saul/Paul's HEBREW Father Purchased Roman
Citizenship For Saul/Paul Before His Birth, So
I Am Thinking Saul Of Tarsus/The Apostle Of
Christ Jesus The HEBREW Rabbi Paul Is FIRST
RECORDED PERSON I AM AWARE OF WITH DUAL
CITIZENSHIP AMEN). Is It Written By The Hebrew
Prophet Joel 2:21-32 That The Holy Spirit Would
Be POURED OUT UPON ALL FLESH, WOMEN AND MEN, ETC
AMEN Marcel, Marcel??? Would It Be REASONABLE
To Conclude That The Holy Spirit Continues To
Manifest Itself THROUGH BOLD COURAGEOUS WOMEN
SUCH AS OUR PRECIOUS SISTER CAROLINE GLICK???
I Pray You And Everyone Noted The OLD Testament
/Covenant Scriptures That Point Toward The
Latter Days AMEN??? Many Men And Women Of
God, Jew And Gentile, Free And Slave, Have
Pointed To This Conclusion Which I Agree With
Totally: The Old Testament/Covenant Is Jehovah
EL Shaddai's Will CONCEALED, Whereas The New
Testament/Covenant Is Jehovah EL Shaddai's
Will REVEALED, HENCE THEY BOTH POINT TO EACH
OTHER. I Personally Believe, As Everyone Is
FREE TO BELIEVE AS THEY WISH I LOVE EVERYONE
AND PRAY FOR EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY
BELIEVE AMEN, My Belief Is That ALL Scripture
OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT/COVENANT POINT TOWARD
THE MESSIAH WHOM I BELIEVE IS YESHUA THE
HEBREW RABBI Jesus Christ Of Nazareth AMEN.
Marcel It Is Written By The Hebrew Pharisee Paul
Divinely Inspired By The Holy Spirit In The New
Testament/Covenant 1 Thessalonians 5:18 "IN
ALL THINGS GIVE THANKS;FOR THIS IS WILL OF GOD
IN CHRIST JESUS FOR YOU." Or WORDS To That
Effect AMEN Marcel, Marcel??? I Have Learned
It The Very TRIALS, TRIBULATIONS, AND THORNS
IN OUR FLESH That We Endure DAILY That Make
Us STRONGER AND INCREASES OUR LEVEL OF FAITH
IN THE MIGHTY RIGHT HAND OF JEHOVAH EL SHADDAI
AND HIS SOVEREIGN WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT
IS IN HEAVEN AMEN. My Dear Brothers And
Sisters PLEASE LET YOUR HEARTS NOT BE TROUBLED
GOD ALLOWED JOB GO THROUGH TRIBULATIONS AND GOD
WITNESSED TO THE EVIL ONE SATAN ABOUT JOB
BEING "UPRIGHT, AND BLAMELESS (NOT SINLESS)
FEARING GOD AND SHUNNING EVIL" AMEN CORRECT?
How Can WE The Children Of God, His Creation
Expect To NOT Have To Endure Trials,
Tribulations, and THORNS IN OUR FLESH
MARCEL? I Am Of The Belief That NOTHING THAT
HAS HAPPENED, OR SHALL HAPPEN, PAST PRESENT AND
FUTURE IS SUPRISING TO THE ALMIGHTY ON THE
THRONE IN HEAVEN MARCEL. I Cannot Honestly
Believe The Almighty God Of Abraham, Isaac,
And Jacob (Israel) Is Sitting On The Throne
In Heaven, Scratching His Head And Saying
To Himself, "GEE, I Never Thought Russia
Would Do This, Or Iran Would Do This",Or
Anything Like That. You Quoted The Hebrew
Prophets Obadiah & Ezekiel, And I AGREE. There
Is NOT 1 Thing In The Daily News Headlines That
Jehovah EL Shaddai Did NOT Address Through
HIS Servants The Hebrew Prophets AMEN???
I Can See The Almighty Working This GIANT
MESS Out For HIS GLORY AS IT IS WRITTEN, AND AS
IT SHOULD BE FOREVER MORE AMEN. I Admit I
Get VERY Frustrated DAILY As Well My Precious
Brothers And Sisters, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
AMEN. The Holy Spirit Directs Me Back To The
Book Of Wisdom God Spoke Through His Servant
The HEBREW King Of Israel Solomon, Proverbs 3:1-
12 AMEN. Stay Strong In The WORD Of God My
Precious Brothers And Sisters, The LORD God Of
ALL Flesh (Jeremiah 32:26-27) Gave Us HIS
WORD To Reference And FEED ON When Our Hearts
Are Troubled And/Or We Are In Distress Psalm
119:105 AMEN. ENCOURAGE EACH OTHER MY PRECIOUS
BROTHERS AND SISTERS, PRAY FOR EACH OTHER AND
THE LORD OUR GOD SHALL SURELY COMFORT US ALL IN
THE MIDST OF THE OUR DAILY TRIBULATIONS
AMEN. I LOVE YOU ALL AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING
ABOUT IT AMEN :):):) Thy Eternal Servant And
Brother FOR ZION'S SAKE Timothy Kriete
Numbers 6:24-27,Habakkuk 2:1-3, Genesis 12:
1-3, The Earth, The Heavens, And The FULLNESS
THEREOF IS THE LORD'S AMEN PRAISE YE THE
LORD OUR GOD FOR HE IS WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE AND
WORSHIP FOREVER MORE AMEN :):):)
Paul
The Apostle Of Christ Jesus The Hebrew Rabbi
Posted by Timothy Kriete For Israel FOREVER MORE AMEN | August 14, 2008 12:42 AM
Interesting response from Mustafa Aykol (a pro-Western Islamist columnist in Turkish Daily News),.http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=112508.
He clearly doesn't have much sense of the real politik of the negotiations with Syria - and holds them up as a triumph of Turkish mediation!
By the way Caroline, isnt a little pruning in order for some of your posters (at least in length)?
Posted by charles soper | August 14, 2008 4:44 PM
Hey Caroline Glick My Precious Sister AMEN;
STAY STRONG BABY GIRL And PLEASE Continue To
Sound The Shofar RELENTLESSLY FOR ZION'S SAKE
(ISAIAH 62 AMEN). I Apologize For The Lengthy
Posts Sis, I Have A ZEAL For Zion's Sake Also :)
I Thank Brother Marcel, Marcel For His Recent
Post Dated August 13,2008 3:40 PM, I Found It
VERY POSITIVE And I Am Truly Grateful AMEN. :)
Charles Soper My Brother I Pray CAROLINE GLICK
NEVER STARTS "PRUNING" The Posts Brother. Trust
Me She Is VERY FAIR In How SHE Allows The Posts,
And I Thank The LORD Of Glory For Her Divinely
Inspired Wisdom And Discernment OBVIOUS GIFT OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT BOO IF YOU WANT BROTHER. :):):)
I Love You ALL And You Can't Do Anything About
It AMEN. Stay Strong Baby Girl God Bless You Sis
Thy Servant And Brother FOR ZION'S SAKE AMEN :)
Posted by Timothy Kriete For Israel FOREVER MORE AMEN | August 14, 2008 7:37 PM